Where We've Been and Where We're Going: Reflecting on the Original "Destructive Emotions" Dialogue Panel Discussion

SUMMIT SESSIONS

Daniel Goleman, PhD, Richard Davidson, PhD, Paul Ekman, PhD and Matthieu Ricard, PhD

Where We've Been and Where We're Going: Reflecting on the Original "Destructive Emotions" Dialogue Panel Discussion

This video is no longer available for free viewing!

Want to support the Science & Wisdom of Emotions Summit and receive unlimited access to all Event Recordings?

If you purchased the Summit Recordings, click here to login.

About Daniel Goleman, PhD

Daniel Goleman is an internationally known psychologist and science journalist. His 1995 book, Emotional Intelligence was a bestseller and has been translated into more than 40 languages. His most recent book, Altered Traits, was co-authored with Richard Davidson and reviews the best meditation research. Dan has also organized a series of intensive conversations between the Dalai Lama and scientists, which resulted in the books Healing Emotions, Destructive Emotions, and Ecology, Ethics, and Interdependence. For the Dalai Lama’s 80th birthday Dan wrote A Force for Good: The Dalai Lama’s Vision for our World. He is a former board member and a Founding Steward of the Mind & Life Institute.

You can learn more about Dr. Goleman's work on his website.

About Richard Davidson, PhD

Richie Davidson’s research is broadly focused on the neural bases of emotion and emotional style and methods to promote human flourishing including meditation and related contemplative practices. He has published over 465 articles, numerous chapters and reviews, and edited 14 books. He is the author (with Sharon Begley) of The Emotional Life of Your Brain, published in 2012, and co-author with Daniel Goleman Altered Traits, published in 2017. He was elected to the National Academy of Medicine in 2017 and appointed to the Governing Board of UNESCO’s Mahatma Gandhi Institute of Education for Peace and Sustainable Development (MGIEP) in 2018.

To learn more about Dr. Davidson's work you can visit Center for Healthy Minds.

About Paul Ekman, PhD

Paul Ekman, PhD is a world renowned psychologist who pioneered the field of studying human emotion as well as truth and deception. Paul was greatly influenced by Darwin's belief in a universality of emotions among humans and dedicated three decades of laboratory research to exploring these ideas. The 2000 meeting with His Holiness drastically altered Paul's research and world view, producing a series of academic articles on emotion and contemplative practice, co-designing the cultivating emotional balance training with Alan Wallace, and co-authoring a book with the Dalai Lama, Emotional Awareness. Paul and his daughter created the Atlas of Emotions at the request and with the support of His Holiness from 2014-2016.

You can find online training tools for emotion recognition and Global Compassion Webisodes with Paul Ekman on his website.

About Matthieu Ricard, PhD

Matthieu Ricard is an author, photographer and translator. He first visited India in 1967, where he met many of the great spiritual masters from Tibet. After completing his Ph.D. degree in cell genetics in 1972, he moved to the Himalayan region where he became a Buddhist monk and has been living for the past 45 years. His books include Altruism: The Power of Compassion to Change Yourself and the World. He devotes all the proceedings of his activities to humanitarian projects in Asia, through Karuna-Shechen, his organization which benefits over 350,000 people every year. Matthieu has been part of the Mind and Life Institute since 2000.

You can learn more about his work by visiting his website.

About Eve Ekman, PhD

Eve Ekman is a contemplative social scientist focusing on emotional awareness working in health care, wellbeing, and technology. Eve draws from interdisciplinary skills and first-person experiential knowledge from clinical social work, integrative medicine, contemplative science, and meditation. Eve is a Senior Fellow at the University of California Berkeley Greater Good Science Center, Director of Cultivating Emotional Balance Training Program, and volunteer clinical faculty at the UCSF Department of Pediatrics. Eve is a second-generation emotion researcher and has collaborated with her father, Paul Ekman, on the Atlas of Emotions project. Eve shares her dad's deep love of bagels and is a devout practitioner of cold water ocean play.

To learn more about her work you can visit the Atlas of Emotions, an online website for emotional awareness commissioned by His Holiness the Dalai Lama and co-created by Eve and Paul Ekman. You can also learn more about a contemplative science training for learning emotional balance that was founded by Alan Wallace and Paul Ekman and is currently lead by Eve Ekman and a global teacher network at Cultivating Emotion Balance.

Enjoying the Summit?

Support this Project and Get Unlimited Access to All Summit Recordings!

Click Here to Learn More!

What do you think?
Leave a comment below!

99 Comments

  1. PAOLA JUDITH SZERMAN May 5, 2021 at 6:14 pm - Reply

    I read the La Vanguardia spanish news the Richard Davidson´s interview
    Changed my way of teaching
    “The basis of a healthy brain is kindness, and it can be trained.” So I´m a trainer since then.
    Whith his books and Daniel goleman books
    You have changed my life

  2. PAOLA SZERMAN May 5, 2021 at 6:15 pm - Reply

    I read the La Vanguardia spanish news the Richard Davidson´s interview
    Changed my way of teaching
    “The basis of a healthy brain is kindness, and it can be trained.” So I´m a trainer since then.
    Whith his books and Daniel goleman books
    You have changed my life

  3. Marina Audi May 5, 2021 at 6:46 pm - Reply

    Sir Paul Ekman, you are a brave scientist to acknowledge that sometimes you need to be humble and admit you do not have the proper scientific vocabulary to describe an experience.
    I am not budhist, but I can imagine the force of His Holliness, the Dalai Lama!

  4. Dadul Namgyal May 5, 2021 at 7:12 pm - Reply

    Thank you all, the panelists and the moderator as well, for such a rich conversation, looking back 20 years in retrospect and thinking forward into what could be done, what needs to be done. There was altruism shining full swing from all of you and throughout the session. I just loved watching you, listening to you, and coming out much enthused and inspired to do my part in this collective effort of making our only livable planet better than we have found it.

  5. Dadul Namgyal May 5, 2021 at 7:22 pm - Reply

    Thank you all, the panelists and moderator as well, for this rich conversation, looking back 20 years and thinking forward into what could be done, what needs to be done (those wonderful concluding ideas you all shared). Altruism was shining forth full swing from all of you and throughout the session. I loved watching you and listening to you. I came out inspired and encouraged to do my part in leaving this, our only livable, planet better than we have found it. Thanks again for all you do and please keep at it for as long as you can.

  6. Marco Araujo Bonamico May 5, 2021 at 7:22 pm - Reply

    I’ve read the blue ‘Focus’ book that is always behind Daniel in his shelf, and it is my own ‘distracted person’s bible’. Curiously enough, I’ve started studying and practising meditation because Daniel (and Mitschell) shows us that it’s a proved way to improve focus and emotional balance/control. Now we have guided meditation practices, Buddhist milenar wisdom, His Holyness himself, Daniel Goleman and top scientists and monks, all together in one online event, for free. I couldn’t be more grateful. Thank you so much.

  7. Diane Renz May 5, 2021 at 8:09 pm - Reply

    Mr Paul Ekman – delight to be ReOriented by your hearted knowing of palpable goodness – not everything can be, or should be ‘measured’ by western science – still looking for that consciousness?

  8. Margaret May 5, 2021 at 8:13 pm - Reply

    Wow thank you soooooo much for the inspirational work you have all done over the last 20 years, acknowledging the incredible scientific work, programs and books that you have all implemented/written. But my heart was particularly opened with the sharing of your personal responses…. Paul to the impact of His Holiness on your life, the energy he exuded by holding your hands and its impact on your emotional life, Richie for talking about how His Holiness embodies love and compassion, and stories about his contact with patients in the hospital corridor walk and for Mathieu in his experience of Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche’s placement of his hand on your head and the felt palpable energy…. all difficult to put words to but bought tears to my eyes with love. The expression of love and compassion by these great masters through your contact has been powerfully transmitted through your experiences and stories. It felt like I was there having the experience also. Thank you!! I am so grateful. Thank you Eve for your vision, intention and compassion, you have a wonderful capacity to interview and facilitate discussion. Thank you for all those who supported you to make this event happen.

  9. Nancy May 5, 2021 at 8:21 pm - Reply

    No sound again.

    • Rolf from Germany May 6, 2021 at 3:02 pm - Reply

      I realised that others often post: “no sound” when in my own system only one channel (usually the left) has sound.
      What I did to solve this problem is in my system settings to play stereo as mono. (Sorry that I might be to late to point that out.)

      And whilst I am here I have to post another issue exactly for the reason I will explain now:
      Something with your comment-system (powered by gravatar frrom wordpress) is broken:

      I can comment once and then for a long while not again,
      and also you have many confusing different threats about same subjects, or if I click on previous pages of a comment threat it is not shown and another time they are only shown.
      Also replies sometimes don’t get ordered threated where they should be.

      I would have loved to engage more in a discussion but this outsourced comment section unfortunately did hinder the communication between us.

      • Ilona May 7, 2021 at 2:18 am - Reply

        Thank you so much! I had only sound on the left, too, and found that rather annoying!
        (And you’re also right about the comment system, I’m not sure if my reply will end up where it’s supposed to go… because the design/layout make it look like I’m leaving a general comment, not a specific reply.)

  10. Chandana Watagodakumbura May 5, 2021 at 8:36 pm - Reply

    What an exhilarating time of discussion (did not feel time passing by) among pioneers in the field? The meaning of emotions needs to be interpreted based on the context of the situation they aroused and used or beyond their face value. This notion will have highly transformative impacts in many social scenarios in healthcare, developmental psychology, education, business and so on. The nuances highlighted were highly educative. Even more so the optimism and ways forward presented. Gives us hope.

  11. Margaret May 5, 2021 at 8:55 pm - Reply

    I liked Richie Davidsons thought of research looking into intergenerational awakening.

  12. Regina Reinhardt May 5, 2021 at 11:01 pm - Reply

    From the bottom of my heart THANK YOU for these four days of inspiration, wisdom, learning, inspiration, generosity, kindness, smiles, richness and so very valuable teachings. May you be all blessed, well, at ease and in peace, Namaste.

  13. Ravi Pradhan May 6, 2021 at 12:05 am - Reply

    Very stimulating and inspiring summit….I view it as part of a 100 yr effort …to bring science and wisdom into a more collaborative effort for the sake of humanity. Hope it leads to thousands of small and big initiatives across many disciplines, starting with education, medicine/health, finance/economics and ecology. Hope also we get a well endowed foundation that focuses on this long term vision (funded by women such as Melinda Gates and Mckenzie Bezos!!!).

    Ravi in Bangkok and Kathmandu

  14. Catherine May 6, 2021 at 1:21 am - Reply

    Big THANK YOU to Eve Ekman to make this happen and to carry on your father’s torch. This is immensely inspiring. It fills me with joy of goodness! Hope to be part of your events in the future. Thanks to all the panelists, Paul, Matthieu, Richard and Daniel. Your work has benefited so many people including myself. Almost 20 years ago, I read my first book on emotions, ‘Emotional Intelligence’ by Daniel Goleman, thanks Daniel for disseminating the precious teachings through your beautiful writings.
    May each of us be a catalyst of the goodness.
    May the goodness prevail in this turbulent time.

  15. Yin May 6, 2021 at 2:28 am - Reply

    Tq for the beautiful wrap up. Grateful for Mr Paul Ekman’s sharing. Metta.

  16. Denise Tomecko, May 6, 2021 at 2:58 am - Reply

    I loved the idea that we can use the same mechanisms which pass down trauma to pass down goodness and joy. Now we know what to do. Become, like HH, ones who exude and cultivate goodness and pass it on to others.

    Denise (Thailand)

  17. Dr.A.Selvaraj May 6, 2021 at 3:33 am - Reply

    Thank you Eve Eke man for your wonderful moderation of the panel discussion with Paul eke man , Richie Davidson, Daniel Goleman, Matthieu Ricord. It was so inspirational and insightful. I loved Richie’s inter generational awakening. Thank Mind and Life Academy to host this summit. All four days with rich resourceful presentation have been a great joy to practice it in our life.

  18. Amar, Hyderabad, India May 6, 2021 at 3:43 am - Reply

    To me, hearing and seeing each one of you, talk on this theme at a personal and reflective level (where I had only read your works, earlier) has been deeply insightful and rewarding.

    The conversation in this session has provided me with perspective for the conflation of several initiatives over the years that have helped me in my own journey. I am thankful to each one of you for who you are and becoming. Gratitude!

  19. Norm Smookler May 6, 2021 at 6:56 am - Reply

    Thanks for the inspiring conversation–a perfect culmination for this generous 4-day event. Paul’s vulnerability in this session stirs me in the way he describes how he was stirred 20 years ago–an opportunity to let go of my residual anger that does not serve me or others.

  20. Sushama Charudutt Chaudhari May 6, 2021 at 7:07 am - Reply

    Thank you everyone, yesterday I posted my comment about IP protections of Vaccines, today there was an announcement that Mr. Biden lends support for temporary suspension of the same. So grateful to Universe, this will open up chances to have vaccine equity in the world for common good. For last one week I was dealing with anger, rage, sadness, helplessness. Along with all the speakers I was following guided practices, practiced self compassion and being with beautiful monsters.

    I had an amazing journey with you all. I am from India, I am a management educator and would love to collaborate in research.

    Best wishes everyone.

  21. Iris Ilona Lieber May 6, 2021 at 8:32 am - Reply

    Congratulations to all of you to give the idea that we can learn to control our destructive emotions with training ,and to promote awareness , so we don´t harm others . Thank you Iris Ilona Lieber

  22. Smriti Sharma May 6, 2021 at 10:09 am - Reply

    What an amazing discussion and so uch love and friendship between them all – inspirational! Thanks from Kenya! Asante sana!

  23. Oya Basaran May 6, 2021 at 11:01 am - Reply

    Thank you so much for this most inspiring and stimulating summit. These last four days provided an oasis of hope in the midst of these very difficult times we are going through.

  24. lucy italy May 6, 2021 at 11:05 am - Reply

    Very inspiring: thank you vaery much

  25. Simonetta Di Barbora May 6, 2021 at 11:59 am - Reply

    Thank you to Eve for the idea of this project and lot of gratitudine to All the Teachers participating.

  26. Paul Shippee May 6, 2021 at 12:08 pm - Reply

    I appreciated the overall intention and good will among the organizers and presenters. I felt it to be a needed cultural uplift to help people see emotions as positive and containing wisdom energies…this as opposed to the unfortunate title of the Destructive Emotions book of 20 years ago that reinforced Buddhism’s persistent view of emotions as afflictive and negative, etc.

    However, beyond that I felt a disconnect with the scientists’ academic bias of approaching emotions as an objective item to study via the standard scientific method employing distance.

    That was a serious disconnect for me because there was no acknowledgement that emotions are a subjective experience. Not only that but the truth of emotions is not only subjective but their truth and relevance is in relationships, ie interpersonal not in a laboratory.

    As you can probably tell, I am a teacher and facilitator of Nonviolent Communication (NVC). Thus, I sorely missed the lack of a competent dive into showing the deeply subjective nature of emotions in the interpersonal context.

    Maybe next time you will consider inviting me and others to represent feelings and needs as they arise and succeed in creating emotional well being in the fully alive subjective context?

    Sent from my iPhone

  27. Randa Mufarrij May 6, 2021 at 12:09 pm - Reply

    What an awakening conversation among scientists and spiritual leaders. I have felt the beautiful positive energy flowing among them and their energy is projected to whoever is listening. I am so grateful that I am among the thousands of listeners and experienced the love energy flowing. Goodness which is emphasized is core. Goodness comes from LOVE. The call of action of Dr. Richard Davidson suggesting that research must be done on Intergeneration transmission of GODNESS to find a way to put goodness in our epigenetic and passed down one or two generations to come which for sure will help what Drs. Daniel Goleman, Paul Ekman and Mathieu Ricard are talking about the responsibility of the future generation. What a genius idea. Thank you Dr. Eve Ekman for organizing this summit. Looking forward to future conversations and enlightenments…

  28. Bojana Boh Podgornik May 6, 2021 at 12:10 pm - Reply

    Thank you all for your work, your contributions, the rich discussion and sharing of personal experiences. I have appreciated them very much. Bojana

  29. Paul Shippee May 6, 2021 at 12:10 pm - Reply

    I appreciated the overall intention and good will among the organizers and presenters. I felt it to be a needed cultural uplift to help people see emotions as positive and containing wisdom energies…this as opposed to the unfortunate title of the Destructive Emotions book of 20 years ago that reinforced Buddhism’s persistent view of emotions as afflictive and negative, etc.

    However, beyond that I felt a disconnect with the scientists’ academic bias of approaching emotions as an objective item to study via the standard scientific method employing distance.

    That was a serious disconnect for me because there was no acknowledgement that emotions are a subjective experience. Not only that but the truth of emotions is not only subjective but their truth and relevance is in relationships, ie interpersonal not in a laboratory.

    As you can probably tell, I am a teacher and facilitator of Nonviolent Communication (NVC). Thus, I sorely missed the lack of a competent dive into showing the deeply subjective nature of emotions in the interpersonal context.

    Maybe next time you will consider inviting me and others to represent feelings and needs as they arise and succeed in creating emotional well being in the fully alive subjective context?

    http://www.paulshippee.com

    Sent from my iPhone

  30. Natercia Junqueira May 6, 2021 at 2:00 pm - Reply

    Thank for all. You are the best! 📿📿💐💐
    Natércia from Brasil

  31. Joan May 6, 2021 at 2:16 pm - Reply

    Thank you so much for this. I thoroughly enjoyed the summit and very much apreciated this last conversation, as well as Eve’s wonderful insight as a presenter. Thank you once again.

  32. Margarita May 6, 2021 at 2:26 pm - Reply

    el final con los 4 grandes y Eve coordinando es un regalo al alma de otra abuela que piensa que mundo le dejo a mis hijos y nieto !!! me llega el mensaje de “despertar a la bondad y al saber”
    gracias gracias gracias infitas

  33. gaetano ruvolo May 6, 2021 at 2:56 pm - Reply

    Thank you all, thanks and thanks again. Inspiring and well wishing for all the things we can do together and individually.

  34. Rolf May 6, 2021 at 3:04 pm - Reply

    Its’s sad that the comment does not work properly – many thorough long comments and helpful suggestions were simply ignored.

  35. Belen May 6, 2021 at 3:21 pm - Reply

    Hi, from Argentina. I am very delight to listen the 5 of you, it was a magic meeting, i had happy tears and i laugh a lot! You spread love within the conversation, i feel so thankfull. Thanks for your responsability and commited work! A very big hug

  36. Joel Villaseca May 6, 2021 at 3:23 pm - Reply

    Eve, you are a superstar! I am in awe. Thank you for this very inspiring summit. _/|\_ Joel

  37. Barbara Rona May 6, 2021 at 4:23 pm - Reply

    THANKS and A SUGGESTION FOR RESEARCH
    My heartfelt thanks go to His Holiness the Dalai Lama, Thupten Jinpa, Daniel Goleman, Richard Davidson, Mattieu Ricard, Eve Eckman, Paul Eckman, and all other presenters for your deeply wise and compassionate help to all of us. It’s so very needed and welcomed.

    I have discovered through my own experience over decades that just as I can learn to work with my mind to manage my feelings of anger – not perfectly, but well enough to make a huge difference in my own well-being and that of others – I can also learn to work with my mind to manage my feelings of attraction (to persons, things, and ideas) – not perfectly, but well enough to make a huge difference in my own well-being and that of others.
    Advertisers and propagandists are already experts at stepping in and working with our mind to manage our feelings of attraction – too often, for their own narrow ends. Think what a difference it could make worldwide if we brought great focus and energy to doing RESEARCH on the possibility, practicalities, and potency of ordinary people learning to work with their mind to manage their own feelings of attraction – for the well-being of all. Their unnecessary sense of helplessness regarding influencing their own feelings of attraction might subside and be replaced with confidence that they can indeed learn skills to guard their mind – for example, against consumerism and virulent propaganda – and skills to take their mind instead in the direction of more sane and humane choices for all.
    Thank you for considering this.
    Warmly,
    Barbara Rona, Seattle – bkrona@comcast.net

  38. mary lynch May 6, 2021 at 4:26 pm - Reply

    So inspired by the final panel – very moving – thank you ALL so much for the whole summit.
    Mary,
    victoria, BC, Canada.

  39. Jose Kleinberg May 6, 2021 at 4:32 pm - Reply

    Now, so much work ahead and so much to review and digest… grateful for stocking the coals, and for the invitation to learn in community.

  40. Sabrina Barroso May 6, 2021 at 6:00 pm - Reply

    Thanks a lot for these talks. I’m grateful for all of these. It will help us a lot at this moment, a moment to think about how we’re living and how we should change. Thanks! Thanks! And Thanks!

  41. Andrea Kamp May 6, 2021 at 7:25 pm - Reply

    Just thank you!

  42. Alcione Marques May 6, 2021 at 7:53 pm - Reply

    What can I say after listening to these incredible people that have dedicate their lives to think about, research and spread goodness and compassion… It’s such a inspiration during this difficult time for the humanity, for all of us. From the bottom of my heart, thank you.🙏💖

  43. stephanie May 6, 2021 at 11:35 pm - Reply

    This Summit was wonderful! Thank you to all the teachers for pooling all their knowledge and giving a beautiful vision for a beautiful humanity 🙂 It’s just wonderful to see that! It’s like a dream come true! Thank you Eve Ekman for everything and everyone who participated! This was just beautiful! 🙂

  44. Ydalia May 6, 2021 at 11:45 pm - Reply

    Realmente muy inspirador, reconocer en retrospectiva el trabajo de 20 años atrás en los que por supuesto esta incluido Francisco Varela y ahora el reto y compromiso colectivo que cada uno tenemos en dejar un mundo mejor y feliz para las generaciones futuras.
    Por otra parte lamento haberme perdido los dos primeros días, ya que el enlace me llegó el martes.

  45. Eva May 7, 2021 at 12:06 am - Reply

    Thank you Paul, Matthieu, Richard and Daniel so much for this event and for your work. Your work has been inspiring as well as it has been influencing my devoplement – personally and professionally – for the last 20 years.
    Thank you Eve for the idea of follwing up after 20 years – wonderful.

  46. Bernice Funk May 7, 2021 at 2:29 am - Reply

    Dr Paul Eckman, I am profoundly moved by your experience and think of your feeling the palpable transmission of goodness as an explanation of a state of ‘grace’ or ‘bliss’.your sharing is transformative. Thank you

  47. René Guarnaluse May 7, 2021 at 5:09 am - Reply

    20 years later, you are not alone, the ones listening are just a priviledge sample with time and contiditions to received and follow up on your efforts to translate through data an experiencial and realizational tradition cultivated through centuries. The tightness of the vest, is due to the slicing of the energetic side of everything so almost everything we have done while wearing the tight vest of reductionism have the risk of missing the Goodness of things.

  48. Susana Korn May 7, 2021 at 8:41 am - Reply

    Thank you all for this most wonderful summit! I haven’t been assisting live, due to schedule incompatibilities, but I’ve heard all the videos afterwards. I’ve learned so much, about myself and others, about being all connected, even if we are far away. And ,especially, realizing that whichever path we are taking it’s the correct one, as long as it adapts to our needs and reality . There are no wrong paths , we all want the same thing , happiness, peace, fulfillment, and we will all ,eventually, reach that awakening moment in which we know we have everything we need to get there, and ultimately, we are already there, even if sometimes it takes us longer to realize it!
    I’m deeply grateful for having been able to receive all this from you.

  49. Nayibe Abraham S May 7, 2021 at 9:16 am - Reply

    Immensely grateful, blessed, identified, inspire, excited and motivated, for such an enriching and unforgettable experience. A dream come true. Identified with the approachs and methodology presented at the Summit. Excited and highly motivated to continue learning and working for a better World. I loved the combination of theoretical, empirical and practical information. Having access to different Intervention Approaches aligned and the accessible and simple language of the Speakers. Thanks soooo much! For the opportunity and for building a better World.
    🙏

  50. Sybille May 7, 2021 at 9:25 am - Reply

    Sadhu, sadhu, sadhu. Heartfelt thanks for going out into our world to share, inspire and shine your lights of wisdom … it had been a true pleasure to listen to you in smile and gratitude. Many blessings!

Leave A Comment

Go to Top